End Graveyards Now!

End Graveyards Now!

Sluagh's picture
Posted by Sluagh on Sun, 04/06/2008 - 10:13pm in

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=W_8JV-GSdvs
The guy who made this vid is a moron (increased ghost sighting?) but I agree with the general message of this vid

I think graveyards actually

I think graveyards actually reflect our religious denial of death.  With Islamo-Christianity, followers pretend that death isn't real.  Similarly, when we bury our dearly departed in the graveyards, we're in similar denial.  We pump them full of chemicals so they won't decompose naturally.  We dress them up in their finest as if we expect them to get up any minute for a night on the town.

I've always thought it's so twisted.  When I die, take whatever organs you can salvage and cremate the rest.  If you need a ceremony to say goodbye, have a set of pictures of me out on display.

johnarmstrong's picture
Posted by johnarmstrong on Mon, 04/07/2008 - 3:27am
I am with you on that one

I am with you on that one John.

4mcclain's picture
Posted by 4mcclain on Mon, 04/07/2008 - 7:38pm
My personal cemetary

My personal cemetary favorite taboo is the fact that funeral parlors sometime seal caskets to keep the creepy crawlies out, yet forget that the body is made up almost primarily of creepy crawlie things that can live completely independantly of "us" . . . so the gasses finally build up in the air tight casket and basically blow up the whole damn casket underground. Sure, it's not a true explosion, but the visual is fairly macabre.

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Posted by jimsartor on Mon, 04/07/2008 - 4:32pm
<3 corpse explosion
Sluagh's picture
Posted by Sluagh on Mon, 04/07/2008 - 5:32pm
What was the video maker

What was the video maker trying to say with that part about ghost sightings? That ghosts are harmful to the enviornment? Wow! I didn't even knew they littered.

The video would have been better if he'd eliminated the ghost part and instead made a case for cremation and organ donations.

rab's picture
Posted by rab on Sat, 04/12/2008 - 1:31am
Just my two cents...

I might be biased, as I work in a funeral home, but I've always found cemeteries to be very interesting places. I love to see how each headstone almost tells a story of a life. I live near a cemetery that was established in the 1820s, and you can see how culture and tradition has evolved through time.

One of my reasons for entering the funeral business was that I had so little understanding of death. Before I had found Deism and had attended the funerals of friends, family, etc.,  I always had a hard time believing that there was no possibility that the end of life on this planet was not the end. Everybody would say "Oh, that's not her, thats just her physical body.", but I've always found it hard to separate the tangible person from the, for a lack of a better word, hypothetical soul. On the off-chance there was nothing after this life, I sure wouldn't want people telling my kids that the only thing that ever was/will be me is fit for the garbage bin.

To get back on topic though, I find most current funeral practices to be fitting and dignified. The notion that funerals are meant to make death not seem real, however, is not entirely true. Any funeral director will tell you that the reason for open casket ceremonies is not to create the illusion of sleeping, but to help the family fully come to terms with the death. Granted, it's not the best thing in all cases (such as a violent or accidental death), but it is a really helpful practice quite a bit of the time.

For example, if a lady was dying of a terminal illness, and had been in bad shape for months, that person is not too worried about their appearance. The family has seen her in her worst state, and the practice of restoring the decendent helps the family have their last memory of her as a clean, well dressed, dignified Aunt Peggy, the one they knew in the good times of her life, not the ill, unkempt one that had to go through all kinds pain and suffering.

I can say from personal experience that this has much of a more profound effect than pictures alone. *Not to say that memorial services are bad, I just know how helpful to the grieving process this can be*

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Posted by Clay on Sat, 04/12/2008 - 6:52pm
What is the motivation to become a mortician?

NKHart

I have a friend whose brother is a mortician.  From what my friend has told me, the reasons for becoming a mortician are not always "nice."  I am speaking about necrophilia.  When a young girl dies, the morticians make snide remarks about him getting "lucky."  A little documentation here: Why are morticians overwhelmingly men?  Closing comments: They are men who like to screw dead women.  Word of advice: Get cremated.

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Posted by NKHart on Sun, 06/29/2008 - 10:34pm
Don't ban graveyards.

I completely agree with John, that when I die, slavage my organs if you can and cremate the rest,  but I don't want to ban graveyards. People have a right to disagree with us. People should be free to indulge in whatever silly belief, superstion, or practice they fancy as long as they don't force anyone else to do likewise.

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Posted by billyjoeallen on Sun, 04/13/2008 - 6:10am
Well the reason behind

Well the reason behind banning them is more economic and environmental, if it offends christians that's simply an extra bonus. If they were buried without the chemicals in a biodegradable container, that would be acceptable. If they stacked the coffins in a mausliam, at least it wouldn't poison the ground. And if the state somehow funds graveyards, they should stop that.

Sluagh's picture
Posted by Sluagh on Mon, 04/14/2008 - 3:35pm
Environmentalism is just a

Environmentalism is just a back door for socialism.  If it's my ground, I can poison it if I want-unless the poison seeps into my neibor's groundwater. That's criminal tresspass.

of course states should not fund graveyards except for soldiers.

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Posted by billyjoeallen on Mon, 04/14/2008 - 10:20pm
i wana be burned in a

i wana be burned in a vikeing longship so a can go to valhalla and cozie up to all them 72 blonde virgins ...

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Posted by woodnrabit on Wed, 04/23/2008 - 3:50am
?

Why do they have to be virgins?

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Posted by TheDemiprist on Sat, 06/21/2008 - 9:37am
The "72 Perpetual Virgins"

The "72 Perpetual Virgins" thing sounds like my idea of Hell.

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Posted by johnarmstrong on Sat, 06/21/2008 - 1:22pm
NT 'Heaven' sounds like Hell

NT 'Heaven' sounds like Hell too me John. Wink

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Posted by TheDemiprist on Mon, 06/30/2008 - 2:19am
Personally, I want to be

Personally, I want to be cremated, then have my ashes put into fireworks and shot off out in nature.  That is, unless I happen to die around the same time frame as Fred Phelps.  If that is the case, I wish to be put through a woodchipper in the back of an airplane, with the cargo bay doors open while flying over Freddy's funeral procession.

"I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with the fates and actions of human beings." - Albert Einstein

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Posted by Parabola on Mon, 08/25/2008 - 7:00am