Just Read the First Chapter
One argument I've heard over and over from believers is that God talked to a generation that practiced slavery and related to them by using examples from their culture. What could I say? I didn't have an answer for that---until I read the first chapter of God vs. the Bible.
If he's God, why wouldn't he instruct his people that slavery was morally wrong? That it was an abomination to own another human being and treat them as you see fit?
Question is, what would be some possible explainations they would come up for that argument? Some fundamentalists would either argue that slavery is not a sin according to God but man made it so, or we cannot judge God or question why he does things. That would be an argument stopper, but it would leave me shaking my head.
I once asked my brother, a Christian, why so many bad things happen to innocent people. He said there are no innocent people because no man is rightteous. I just looked at him and didn't know what else to say. I thought about children that had been abducted and murdererd. I thought what kind of God like that is worthy of worship. If I had spoken out loud my thoughts, he probably would have used the God can do anything argument. Today, his youngest son serves in Iraq.
Ah, the Euthyphro dilemma
http://ca.youtube.com/user/TheoreticalBullshit
This guy on youtube gives excellent talks on such moral constructs, and what sounds like deism in general. I have found he often (though not always) expresses how I think of god, even though he would not believe in such a being. So he is sort of a deist prophet that would not recognize himself as such.
Christians, Theists. LoL!!!!
What a silly bunch.
In Reason:
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"Beware the irrational, however seductive. Shun the "transcendent" and all who invite you to subordinate or annihilate yourself. Distrust compassion; prefer dignity for yourself and others. Don't be afraid to be thought arrogant or selfish. Picture all experts as if they were mammals. Never be a spectator of unfairness or stupidity. Seek out argument and disputation for their own sake; the grave will supply plenty of time for silence. Suspect your own motives, and all excuses. Do not live for others any more than you would expect others to live for you. "- Christopher Hitchen
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Do you believe personally believe that God is "the Creator?" If yes, why. If no, why.
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I think he already covered this in a video, it was something like; He can't believe that it's not here on purpose, but if you don't want to believe that it means about as much to him as you not liking tuna.
<quote> I think he already covered this in a video, it was something like; He
can't believe that it's not here on purpose, but if you don't want to
believe that it means about as much to him as you not liking tuna. </quote>
In a nutshell.
On that note, I'd like to share Armstrong's Wager (parody of Pascal's Wager):
If the atheist is right and I'm wrong, neither of us has anything to worry about but...
If I'm right and the atheist is wrong, neither of us has anything to worry about.
So go ahead and think freely.
I often wonder if there was an intellegent force that created the world and all living things. But why people still insist on equating that with ancient holy texts is beyond me. Just because there may be an intellegence at work in the universe doesnt mean that he/she/it wrote a book of old silly laws about foreskins and eating animals with hooves.
I don't see how such a god as the one depicted in the bible would have the intellegence to create this vast and infinate universe of which our finite minds cannot grasp.
Just a minor thing, I don't think a god would be intelligent.
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=t8DNXmow8TQ
Though I agree with the rest.